In this episode, Andrew sits down with members of his men’s team that began with a three-day conversation on a mountain 25 years ago, and has never really stopped. What unfolds in this conversation is something rare: men speaking with uncommon honesty about what they’ve built, what it’s cost them, and why they keep showing up.
They had gathered in Cornwall, England, for a weeklong hiking trip. Sadly, one member, Kent Haden, was absent. They tell us about the moments that nearly broke them, the members they have lost, and the question of whether men’s groups even work over Zoom.
But mostly, they’ll tell you what happens when men commit to knowing and being known over decades. What grows, what shifts, and what becomes possible that wasn’t before.
And for those who feel something stirring while listening, they don’t leave you there. They share what they have learned about how to actually start something like this, and what it takes to make it last.
If you’ve ever wondered whether deep male friendship is real, or whether you’re capable of it, this episode is for you.
Guest Links and Resources:
Paul Zysman’s Foundation: Community Evolution
Paul Zysman’s email: paul.zysman@ilsc.com
Richard Kay’s Sentinel Retreat Center
Richard Kay’s email: richard@dunowen.com
Richard’s book: Presence - A State of Being
John Ince’s website & email: johnince8@gmail.com
Garry Gallagher email: grg@paralynx.com
Reflections Episode soon to come:
In our Reflections episode, we reflect on the key moments, insights, and practices that stood out in the conversation Andrew had with his men’s team. We share:
Observations and highlights from the original conversation & experience.
Personal insights from Andrew and Danielle on applying these principles in daily life.
Practical ideas and exercises you can try to deepen the connection in your own relationships.
A worksheet with instructions you can download.
The Reflections episode is a shorter, intimate companion to the main interview—designed to help you process, integrate, and embody what was discussed.
